1 00:00:30,650 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:37,090 --> 00:00:32,649 [Applause] 3 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:41,350 explode the bazaars are your e-ticket 4 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:44,020 ride into the world of the paranoid 5 00:00:51,630 --> 00:00:47,330 strap yourself in as we traverse the 6 00:00:56,049 --> 00:00:51,640 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 7 00:01:00,220 --> 00:00:56,059 ghosts Lost Worlds cryptozoology waters 8 00:01:04,719 --> 00:01:00,230 as well as other dimensions it's time to 9 00:01:06,969 --> 00:01:04,729 take back the night last night now your 10 00:01:12,810 --> 00:01:06,979 electrifying hosts of exploring the 11 00:01:22,749 --> 00:01:18,520 we I just love Los Angeles Tim all the 12 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:22,759 celebrities all that money it's just so 13 00:01:28,779 --> 00:01:26,720 much to do and see yep right you know 14 00:01:32,170 --> 00:01:28,789 you never know who you're going to run 15 00:01:34,810 --> 00:01:32,180 into a long Hollywood and Vine all the 16 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:34,820 celebrities are out there I shouldn't I 17 00:01:39,219 --> 00:01:36,890 I I could have sworn that I saw a 18 00:01:44,380 --> 00:01:39,229 Marilyn Monroe and Bob Hope but they 19 00:01:47,999 --> 00:01:44,390 must have been celebrity look-alikes I'm 20 00:01:51,969 --> 00:01:48,009 not sure but you know I've heard that 21 00:01:54,399 --> 00:01:51,979 Los Angeles Hollywood is really overrun 22 00:01:58,030 --> 00:01:54,409 with ghosts some of the most haunted 23 00:02:00,160 --> 00:01:58,040 places in America are here I hear that 24 00:02:02,980 --> 00:02:00,170 the Roosevelt Hotel is overrun with 25 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:02,990 phantoms I say we stop by and see if we 26 00:02:07,410 --> 00:02:05,090 can't communicate with someone who has 27 00:02:11,170 --> 00:02:07,420 passed over you know I'm such a great 28 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:11,180 medium if I had anything to do with it I 29 00:02:18,699 --> 00:02:14,350 would still go out with Marilyn Marilyn 30 00:02:22,449 --> 00:02:18,709 well I've heard add I don't think she 31 00:02:24,850 --> 00:02:22,459 would go out with you when she could 32 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:24,860 have someone like I don't know Rock 33 00:02:28,449 --> 00:02:26,959 Hudson on her arm yep but I think we 34 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:28,459 would rather have a handsome young man 35 00:02:36,340 --> 00:02:31,930 to escort him to the next Academy Awards 36 00:02:38,830 --> 00:02:36,350 try well it's it's getting a little too 37 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:38,840 spooky around here let's uh let's head 38 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:40,670 back to the case you our studios and 39 00:02:46,539 --> 00:02:43,940 find out just how haunted Los Angeles 40 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:46,549 really is well let me get the cobwebs 41 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:49,220 out of my face first and then we'll go 42 00:02:53,949 --> 00:02:50,480 back but I'm looking 43 00:02:57,759 --> 00:02:53,959 forward to venturing out again this 44 00:03:00,850 --> 00:02:57,769 evening and I bet you are too Tim yes 45 00:03:03,309 --> 00:03:00,860 yes I love Los Angeles I love Southern 46 00:03:08,259 --> 00:03:03,319 California as long as the ground isn't 47 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:08,269 shaky it's a great rule but you it's 48 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:09,920 easier to do a little boogie and a 49 00:03:15,940 --> 00:03:12,110 little dance if the ground is shrinking 50 00:03:19,059 --> 00:03:15,950 I would say I'm done well we're on the 51 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:19,069 solid ground here for the moment and Los 52 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:21,200 Vegas or at least I think it's solid 53 00:03:27,780 --> 00:03:23,329 because last week when they had those 54 00:03:31,059 --> 00:03:27,790 two quakes I believe it was felt in 55 00:03:33,819 --> 00:03:31,069 Vegas so yeah you never know I mean even 56 00:03:37,089 --> 00:03:33,829 here in the Big Apple we've had the 57 00:03:40,270 --> 00:03:37,099 window and and all a shake a couple of 58 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:40,280 times people don't realize that I'm on a 59 00:03:44,740 --> 00:03:42,650 fault line that runs right underneath 60 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:44,750 the building here with all these 61 00:03:50,110 --> 00:03:46,670 skyscrapers I mean if anything really 62 00:03:53,050 --> 00:03:50,120 happened I'd have cement and brick all 63 00:03:57,059 --> 00:03:53,060 over me which I do anyway I guess but 64 00:04:01,420 --> 00:03:57,069 enough of our idle chatter here we're 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:01,430 about to get as serious as we possibly 66 00:04:06,009 --> 00:04:04,130 can that be in Tim why don't you tell us 67 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:06,019 who we're going to be speaking to this 68 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:08,870 evening why it would be my pleasure 69 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:12,049 tonight I'm very happy to say that we 70 00:04:18,370 --> 00:04:15,290 have Craig Owens with us now Craig is a 71 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:18,380 Los Angeles based photographer and he 72 00:04:24,210 --> 00:04:20,209 first fell in love with the history and 73 00:04:26,290 --> 00:04:24,220 the paranormal in 1972 when he was a 74 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:26,300 seven-year-old boy playing on the 75 00:04:32,140 --> 00:04:29,270 grounds of a southern plantation known 76 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:32,150 as Waverly located outside of West Point 77 00:04:37,089 --> 00:04:33,889 Mississippi I've heard of Waverly by the 78 00:04:39,250 --> 00:04:37,099 way so while the Waverly owners admitted 79 00:04:42,219 --> 00:04:39,260 to seeing hearing the ghost of a young 80 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:42,229 female child well Craig never 81 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:43,970 encountered her yet the atmosphere in 82 00:04:49,450 --> 00:04:46,010 history of Waverly stayed with him long 83 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:49,460 after his family moved to Texas now in 84 00:04:54,129 --> 00:04:51,770 1994 he moved to Los Angeles and began 85 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:54,139 to work freelance in the film and 86 00:04:59,560 --> 00:04:56,000 television industry and his production 87 00:05:00,459 --> 00:04:59,570 credits include fudge the Christmas Box 88 00:05:03,610 --> 00:05:00,469 wag the dog 89 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:03,620 phone booth and the Gilmore Girls 90 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:07,130 so in 2009 91 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:09,920 Craig begins staging vintage style photo 92 00:05:14,980 --> 00:05:12,770 shoots at haunted hotels as an idea for 93 00:05:17,650 --> 00:05:14,990 an old Hollywood themed project and 94 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:17,660 while on location he experienced 95 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:19,910 paranormal activity himself miss left 96 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:22,310 and wondering if his photo shoots were 97 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:24,650 somehow trigger in it so the following 98 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:26,930 year he started his facebook blog 99 00:05:33,220 --> 00:05:30,290 bizarre Los Angeles a page dedicated to 100 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:33,230 Los Angeles's forgotten history he also 101 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:35,510 continued to hold vintage photo shoots 102 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:38,000 at haunted locations and little did he 103 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:39,680 know that his love for haunted hotels 104 00:05:45,820 --> 00:05:43,450 would bring media attention to him now 105 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:45,830 crank has gained notoriety for his 106 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:47,120 photography and his passion for 107 00:05:51,910 --> 00:05:49,460 historical research he had also appeared 108 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:51,920 in other people's good books including a 109 00:05:57,850 --> 00:05:55,310 gourmet ghost 2 by James Bartlett and 110 00:06:00,910 --> 00:05:57,860 ghost land an American history in 111 00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:00,920 haunted places by Colin Dickey 112 00:06:08,890 --> 00:06:05,390 so now Craig's book that we're going to 113 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:08,900 be talking about tonight as well as his 114 00:06:17,470 --> 00:06:13,730 Facebook page bizarre la is haunted by 115 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:17,480 history vol 1 separating the facts and 116 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:20,210 legends of eight historic hotels and 117 00:06:25,420 --> 00:06:23,810 inns in Southern California so Craig 118 00:06:28,210 --> 00:06:25,430 great to have you with us tonight on 119 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:28,220 exploring the bizarre oh thank you thank 120 00:06:35,290 --> 00:06:30,370 you guys for having me 121 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:35,300 which one's dim the other ones Tim there 122 00:06:41,380 --> 00:06:38,450 you go - Tim's the confuse just to 123 00:06:43,450 --> 00:06:41,390 confuse our audience hey you know what I 124 00:06:45,820 --> 00:06:43,460 gotta ask you Craig the start off day 125 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:45,830 did you have any paranormal experiences 126 00:06:51,730 --> 00:06:47,680 of growing up or did you just kind of 127 00:06:54,430 --> 00:06:51,740 fall into this a bit of both I had very 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:54,440 minor paranormal experiences growing up 129 00:07:01,510 --> 00:06:58,730 but I did fall into it in around 2009 130 00:07:04,060 --> 00:07:01,520 but I always said that there was about 131 00:07:07,660 --> 00:07:04,070 four or five different episodes in my 132 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:07,670 life that kind of led me to this to this 133 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:09,710 point in my career where I'm actually 134 00:07:14,710 --> 00:07:11,570 talking about ghosts more than I'm 135 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:14,720 talking about anything else the first 136 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:17,480 one is as you mentioned 137 00:07:22,470 --> 00:07:19,610 waverly plantation and by the way thanks 138 00:07:24,970 --> 00:07:22,480 a lot for that intro that's great I 139 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:24,980 appreciate it 140 00:07:30,130 --> 00:07:26,990 I didn't encounter the ghost girl there 141 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:30,140 and I it always bugged me I had heard 142 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:31,850 about it when I was about 7 years old 143 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:34,490 and I would actually go and look for it 144 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:37,280 whenever I would visit Waverly which was 145 00:07:41,710 --> 00:07:39,110 quite a bit I mean I'd be there almost 146 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:41,720 every two weeks or so and I had a couple 147 00:07:46,330 --> 00:07:43,850 of sleepovers but nothing really ever 148 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:46,340 came of it look by the way very few 149 00:07:52,540 --> 00:07:49,330 people ever saw that little ghost girl 150 00:07:54,670 --> 00:07:52,550 others had encountered her or heard her 151 00:07:59,110 --> 00:07:54,680 voice but very few people have actually 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:07:59,120 seen it even what did she look like 153 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:02,050 I want to say she was at whilst he was 154 00:08:09,010 --> 00:08:06,620 victorian dressed of probably late 19th 155 00:08:13,630 --> 00:08:09,020 century mid to late 19th century about 156 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:13,640 five six years old and you know kind of 157 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:15,590 the curly hair from what I understand 158 00:08:23,050 --> 00:08:18,710 and I I don't know if her dress was 159 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:23,060 white I believe it was but the only two 160 00:08:28,510 --> 00:08:24,560 people who had seemed the ghosts that 161 00:08:31,570 --> 00:08:28,520 I'm aware of was mrs. snow the late 162 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:31,580 owner of the house she was the first one 163 00:08:37,930 --> 00:08:35,330 to see her and then a couple of decades 164 00:08:41,890 --> 00:08:37,940 later later her daughter saw salt 165 00:08:46,210 --> 00:08:41,900 Kanchana ghost and you say that this was 166 00:08:48,460 --> 00:08:46,220 a plantation yes it was a former 167 00:08:52,180 --> 00:08:48,470 plantation it actually the antebellum 168 00:08:56,430 --> 00:08:52,190 home preceded the Civil War it still was 169 00:08:59,530 --> 00:08:56,440 massive still massive acreage and 170 00:09:02,020 --> 00:08:59,540 currently it's for sale I believe still 171 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:02,030 because both of the owners that I grew 172 00:09:07,930 --> 00:09:05,150 up with and knowing have since passed in 173 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:07,940 it's very expensive to maintain that 174 00:09:11,530 --> 00:09:10,010 property well it's funny you should 175 00:09:13,930 --> 00:09:11,540 mention that Tim and I have been looking 176 00:09:17,470 --> 00:09:13,940 to buy a haunted plantation right Tim oh 177 00:09:20,740 --> 00:09:17,480 yeah that's right well that is the one 178 00:09:23,290 --> 00:09:20,750 that's the one to buy it's gorgeous as 179 00:09:29,470 --> 00:09:23,300 long as long as there's some ghosts 180 00:09:33,210 --> 00:09:29,480 cooking in the kitchen chicken and grits 181 00:09:38,350 --> 00:09:35,620 okay the other thing about that 182 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:38,360 particular haunting is they actually did 183 00:09:45,010 --> 00:09:41,690 try to find out the identity of the 184 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:45,020 ghost girl child and prior to the snows 185 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:48,250 owning the home it only had one other 186 00:09:53,740 --> 00:09:51,650 family that owned it and all of them are 187 00:09:58,090 --> 00:09:53,750 accounted for so no one really knows for 188 00:10:01,270 --> 00:09:58,100 sure in when I say accounted for I mean 189 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:01,280 that they're not all still alive but but 190 00:10:06,850 --> 00:10:04,310 none of them died in the house according 191 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:06,860 to records so they came to the 192 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:09,170 conclusion that maybe it was either a 193 00:10:15,460 --> 00:10:11,860 distant relative or a neighboring child 194 00:10:18,570 --> 00:10:15,470 that had visited the place it was 195 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:18,580 something obviously someone with a a 196 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:20,890 emotional connection to the property 197 00:10:26,620 --> 00:10:23,690 because the child would cry out for her 198 00:10:29,860 --> 00:10:26,630 mommy so whatever was there was lost or 199 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:29,870 looking for their mom now when you when 200 00:10:36,190 --> 00:10:32,690 you got to a Hollywood let's skip across 201 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:36,200 the country sure when you got when you 202 00:10:42,850 --> 00:10:40,160 got to a Hollywood you were in the movie 203 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:42,860 and television business working for the 204 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:45,910 studios or independently yes 205 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:50,060 independently but I was freelance doing 206 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:52,250 what most people do when they arrived in 207 00:10:56,020 --> 00:10:54,710 Los Angeles and are trying to break in 208 00:10:59,410 --> 00:10:56,030 and that's working as a production 209 00:11:02,830 --> 00:10:59,420 assistant and that's actually you know I 210 00:11:05,170 --> 00:11:02,840 am I had to come out here I mean I was 211 00:11:07,930 --> 00:11:05,180 living in Texas at the time and I had a 212 00:11:12,970 --> 00:11:07,940 film degree and had done just about 213 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:12,980 everything I knew what to do in Texas to 214 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:15,680 save money to come out to Los Angeles so 215 00:11:22,750 --> 00:11:19,810 I did that was my where I felt home and 216 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:22,760 it took almost a year for me to finally 217 00:11:28,780 --> 00:11:26,030 get my break working in in the film 218 00:11:32,590 --> 00:11:28,790 industry so it was all go but I was a 219 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:32,600 huge old Hollywood fan and so I when I 220 00:11:37,390 --> 00:11:35,000 had days off which sometimes there were 221 00:11:39,460 --> 00:11:37,400 a lot sometimes not at all you know I 222 00:11:42,340 --> 00:11:39,470 would go and try to visit some of these 223 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:42,350 old places around La while they were 224 00:11:47,060 --> 00:11:44,160 still standing 225 00:11:48,950 --> 00:11:47,070 and just kind of take in and absorb 226 00:11:50,990 --> 00:11:48,960 because that's the LA I fell in love 227 00:11:53,290 --> 00:11:51,000 with that's the LA I used to see in the 228 00:11:57,260 --> 00:11:53,300 old movies in television shows 229 00:12:00,260 --> 00:11:57,270 not the new stuff so much so I was 230 00:12:02,210 --> 00:12:00,270 greatly drawn to the old Hollywood 231 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:02,220 mystique so to speak 232 00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:07,050 yeah even even the stunt men are 233 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:12,150 animated today every everything is 234 00:12:17,930 --> 00:12:14,730 animated I mean I like a little action 235 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:17,940 in my movie but Dwayne Johnson I mean 236 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:19,890 writing it torpedo across the ice is a 237 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:21,870 little is a little much I mean they just 238 00:12:27,130 --> 00:12:23,850 over over do it 239 00:12:31,460 --> 00:12:27,140 what was what was the the the first 240 00:12:33,860 --> 00:12:31,470 ghosts that you you encountered I mean 241 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:33,870 that you heard about I mean I guess of 242 00:12:41,090 --> 00:12:38,720 Marilyn Monroe and is said to haunt 243 00:12:45,260 --> 00:12:41,100 several places I would imagine right 244 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:45,270 yeah well I did my I've done my research 245 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:47,850 on almost all of those places because I 246 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:50,370 kind of came in as a somewhat skeptic I 247 00:12:55,790 --> 00:12:52,260 always say I'm a reluctant skeptic I do 248 00:12:57,620 --> 00:12:55,800 I have had enough paranormal experiences 249 00:13:00,860 --> 00:12:57,630 that has led me to believe that 250 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:00,870 something real is out there that you 251 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:02,730 know is paranormal related that ghosts 252 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:06,030 do in fact exist however a lot of the 253 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:10,050 stories are not so true and yeah trying 254 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:12,890 to you know track down Marilyn Monroe 255 00:13:18,890 --> 00:13:15,840 yes she hunts a lot of different places 256 00:13:21,230 --> 00:13:18,900 so does Rudolph Valentino and oh yeah 257 00:13:24,050 --> 00:13:21,240 there's a lot of myths out here there's 258 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:24,060 you know Clark Gable and Charlie Chaplin 259 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:26,190 and Greta Garbo if you believed all the 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:27,810 stories they owned half of Los Angeles 261 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:30,090 at one time or another and that's simply 262 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:34,230 just not true you know so trying to 263 00:13:40,010 --> 00:13:38,160 separate the facts from the fiction is a 264 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:40,020 bit of a challenge because some of these 265 00:13:44,420 --> 00:13:41,490 people these stories have been told for 266 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:44,430 decades and some people don't want to 267 00:13:48,950 --> 00:13:46,290 give up their urban legends 268 00:13:52,090 --> 00:13:48,960 that's one of the facts but I will tell 269 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:52,100 you this is a great segue my first 270 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:55,080 paranormal experience one of the the 271 00:13:57,950 --> 00:13:57,330 heaviest ones was actually while I was 272 00:13:59,480 --> 00:13:57,960 working 273 00:14:04,850 --> 00:13:59,490 the production assistant at Warner 274 00:14:06,890 --> 00:14:04,860 Brothers studio in Burbank now that kind 275 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:06,900 of was one of the tipping points one of 276 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:09,030 the stepping stones that led me to get 277 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:11,630 more heavily involved in paranormal and 278 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:16,110 historic research I was working on a 279 00:14:23,450 --> 00:14:20,370 television series in 1999 is a terrible 280 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:23,460 series don't even bother you won't 281 00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:28,800 remember it run to Amazon Prime right 282 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:30,000 now and look it up 283 00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:33,930 the marquee post she was the biggest 284 00:14:38,980 --> 00:14:36,270 name on the show at the time but it 285 00:14:42,590 --> 00:14:38,990 lasted less than one season however 286 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:42,600 while I was running around dropping 287 00:14:48,950 --> 00:14:46,290 scripts off on Halloween night believe 288 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:48,960 it or not I go into the soundstage and 289 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:51,450 it's the oldest remaining soundstage on 290 00:14:58,610 --> 00:14:52,800 Warner Brothers I believe it was 291 00:15:00,590 --> 00:14:58,620 completed around 1929 and as I was 292 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:00,600 bringing I had about 50 scripts in my 293 00:15:07,010 --> 00:15:03,690 arms for this television show and 294 00:15:08,810 --> 00:15:07,020 everyone had gone hours ago 295 00:15:10,850 --> 00:15:08,820 because everyone had to go to their 296 00:15:13,310 --> 00:15:10,860 Halloween parties and torture training 297 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:13,320 with her kids so yeah I was like the 298 00:15:19,130 --> 00:15:16,950 last man standing for the production 299 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:19,140 crew so I come into this dark soundstage 300 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:21,510 I flip on the lights the lights are 301 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:23,970 acting crazy I climb out the old wood 302 00:15:29,690 --> 00:15:26,370 stairs to some little offices on a 303 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:29,700 second floor and after dropping off 304 00:15:34,580 --> 00:15:32,550 several scripts up there I became aware 305 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:34,590 that of a woman's voice speaking 306 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:38,730 somewhere down below on this from the 307 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:41,670 main soundstage area and at first I 308 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:44,570 thought someone had left a radio on or 309 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:48,930 or a television set on and I couldn't 310 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:50,490 quite make out what the woman was saying 311 00:15:57,950 --> 00:15:54,210 it she had kind of a deep voice almost 312 00:16:00,830 --> 00:15:57,960 like a whiskey voice so to speak and and 313 00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:00,840 I couldn't make out what she was saying 314 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:02,880 I can make out sounds I can make out 315 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:05,670 consonants and vowels but putting them 316 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:08,610 together was a whole nother thing so I 317 00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:11,580 stood on that railing and I went 318 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,160 that is so weird I was thinking to 319 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:16,560 myself so I decided I would just hang 320 00:16:21,139 --> 00:16:18,720 out there for a little while and try to 321 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:21,149 determine where that sound was coming 322 00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:25,529 from and that voice continued to talk 323 00:16:30,670 --> 00:16:27,750 off and on there were some pregnant 324 00:16:34,340 --> 00:16:30,680 pauses there was some you know silence 325 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:34,350 that kept going on for over 20 minutes 326 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:37,230 it was amazing and I couldn't make out a 327 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:39,600 single word during that time and the 328 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:41,850 lights never really turned on the work 329 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:44,250 lights overhead they were half of them 330 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:46,649 never turned on which was incredibly 331 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:50,190 unusual because I have been working I 332 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:51,690 had been working on that stage for 333 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:53,610 something like four years with with 334 00:16:59,329 --> 00:16:56,970 various different shows and those lights 335 00:17:03,350 --> 00:16:59,339 had never misbehaved like they were that 336 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:03,360 night so after about 20-25 minutes I 337 00:17:08,750 --> 00:17:05,280 still had have been just groups to drop 338 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:08,760 off and I decided at that moment I 339 00:17:14,030 --> 00:17:11,040 really needed to get back to work as 340 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:14,040 fascinating as everything was but I 341 00:17:20,809 --> 00:17:17,130 tried to sneak down the stairs to see if 342 00:17:24,409 --> 00:17:20,819 I could somehow sneak up on whatever it 343 00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:24,419 was that was you know walking and moving 344 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:28,110 around and talking and when you know it 345 00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:31,110 you know just like kind of the cliche as 346 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:34,080 soon as I hit that bottom stairs that 347 00:17:41,419 --> 00:17:37,650 boy stopped and there was no more voices 348 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:41,429 so I went and dropped the scripts off in 349 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:44,210 the middle of the stage the lights were 350 00:17:51,290 --> 00:17:48,510 blinking very frantically and I did do a 351 00:17:53,090 --> 00:17:51,300 little walkthrough around the stage just 352 00:17:56,770 --> 00:17:53,100 to make sure that there was no radio or 353 00:18:00,370 --> 00:17:56,780 TV on but I already had ruled that out 354 00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:00,380 then you know several minutes ago 355 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:04,860 nothing there quiet but as I started 356 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:08,130 walking from the set to the door where I 357 00:18:15,530 --> 00:18:11,250 had entered I became aware of women's 358 00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:15,540 heels walking behind me and at first it 359 00:18:19,970 --> 00:18:18,660 was you know quite a distance and I 360 00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:19,980 thought cut that's weird it's not 361 00:18:25,340 --> 00:18:22,080 talking it's they're not the heels 362 00:18:30,409 --> 00:18:25,350 aren't clacking at the at the same speed 363 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:30,419 or beat as my footsteps so I once they 364 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:32,880 became aware of that and the swishing of 365 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:35,910 fabric of like a dress whatever was 366 00:18:39,799 --> 00:18:38,400 following me was obviously it sounded 367 00:18:42,260 --> 00:18:39,809 like she was wearing a dress and wearing 368 00:18:46,730 --> 00:18:42,270 heels wasn't talking but just walking 369 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:46,740 and I reached the point where I you know 370 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:48,570 stopped in my tracks and I swung around 371 00:18:53,570 --> 00:18:50,940 like a gunslinger thinking I might be 372 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:53,580 able to catch whoever was pulling the 373 00:19:00,890 --> 00:18:56,850 prank on me and and no one was there the 374 00:19:03,890 --> 00:19:00,900 odd thing was the footsteps did not stop 375 00:19:08,419 --> 00:19:03,900 in time with mine it was like a little 376 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:08,429 stutter step and then it stopped so once 377 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:11,970 it quieted down and the only thing there 378 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,130 was the buzzing and flickering of lights 379 00:19:18,289 --> 00:19:16,320 overhead I turned back and started 380 00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:18,299 walking again I walk about four or five 381 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:22,080 steps suddenly I'm aware of this females 382 00:19:28,850 --> 00:19:24,960 footsteps clicking behind me again the 383 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:28,860 swishing of fabric and interestingly 384 00:19:36,909 --> 00:19:33,330 enough this time the steps got closer 385 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:36,919 and by this time I was in wide open 386 00:19:43,159 --> 00:19:39,390 space on the soundstage so there was 387 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:43,169 literally nothing to hide behind so 388 00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:44,730 that's when I stopped turned around 389 00:19:50,570 --> 00:19:47,760 again a second time no one was there the 390 00:19:53,299 --> 00:19:50,580 footsteps stopped again but not exactly 391 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:53,309 in sync with mine and that was it for me 392 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:55,650 I think I had had a death of the ghost 393 00:20:02,299 --> 00:19:59,250 for that night so I just quickly 394 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:02,309 inherently walked to the door turned off 395 00:20:06,980 --> 00:20:04,530 the light shouted something like hi nice 396 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:06,990 meeting you happy Halloween whatever and 397 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:09,870 I went outside and I was shaking for 398 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:12,720 about 10-15 minutes and but I I sat 399 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:15,120 parked in a golf cart waiting I was 400 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:17,400 still hoping against hope that some 401 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:20,100 prankster was doing a Halloween prank on 402 00:20:25,310 --> 00:20:22,490 me and they would come out of that dark 403 00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:25,320 soundstage no one came out I went back 404 00:20:32,419 --> 00:20:27,990 to work when I mentioned what happened 405 00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:32,429 to the my supervisor he he he didn't 406 00:20:36,049 --> 00:20:33,990 believe me he didn't care he was like 407 00:20:38,810 --> 00:20:36,059 are you trying to tell me you've got 408 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:38,820 haunted on Halloween and I'm like 409 00:20:44,570 --> 00:20:41,880 I know it's a little hard to believe so 410 00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:44,580 it was all forgotten except that I kept 411 00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:47,340 remembering it and then 17 years later 412 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:49,980 after my book came out I met someone 413 00:20:55,550 --> 00:20:51,750 that actually had worked security for 414 00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:55,560 over 10 years and I started telling him 415 00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:58,080 my story and before I even finished it 416 00:21:03,050 --> 00:21:00,720 he already guessed what sound stage it 417 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:03,060 was in sound stage 4 at Warner Brothers 418 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,770 and and I was like oh god finally 419 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:10,080 finally someone corroborated my 420 00:21:15,170 --> 00:21:12,960 experience and the security guard said 421 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,180 yeah you know you're not the only one 422 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:17,520 that's heard the woman's voice and and 423 00:21:22,940 --> 00:21:20,790 I've heard the woman's good steps do we 424 00:21:25,130 --> 00:21:22,950 know who the woman might have been had 425 00:21:28,820 --> 00:21:25,140 no idea that you know Warner Brothers is 426 00:21:32,420 --> 00:21:28,830 situated across Forest Lawn Drive from 427 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:32,430 the Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills Memorial 428 00:21:37,370 --> 00:21:35,490 Park so a lot of the the contract 429 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:37,380 players including Betty Davis who was 430 00:21:44,210 --> 00:21:39,510 with Warner Brothers for years is 431 00:21:46,340 --> 00:21:44,220 actually buried or interred up there in 432 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:46,350 the Hollywood Hills Forest Lawn single 433 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:48,900 George Raft who you know wouldn't have 434 00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:50,850 been wearing a dress and [\h__\h] around 435 00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:53,070 in heels but he was under contract with 436 00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:54,540 Warner Brothers symbol 437 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:56,640 how do you know that do you know that 438 00:22:03,580 --> 00:21:58,170 for a fact you'd you didn't read 439 00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:06,130 about that yet 440 00:22:11,090 --> 00:22:09,120 George was known for a lot of things but 441 00:22:13,490 --> 00:22:11,100 cross-dressing was not one yeah what was 442 00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:13,500 it what about there okay well who would 443 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:16,620 you say no yeah taking into account all 444 00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:19,260 the cases or all the ghosts that you've 445 00:22:27,130 --> 00:22:22,590 chased down who would you say is the 446 00:22:30,530 --> 00:22:27,140 most often the reportedly as seen or 447 00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:30,540 what ghosts the you know pops up most of 448 00:22:35,390 --> 00:22:32,550 the frequency and what frequently and 449 00:22:39,260 --> 00:22:35,400 would that be an authentic ghost or a 450 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:39,270 fabrication most of the most frequently 451 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:42,210 popping up are fabrications but I would 452 00:22:46,650 --> 00:22:45,000 say that it's a toss-up between Rudolph 453 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:46,660 Valentino in Maryland 454 00:22:52,530 --> 00:22:49,690 as far as being that the ghost with the 455 00:22:56,460 --> 00:22:52,540 most as far as getting around in Los 456 00:22:58,530 --> 00:22:56,470 Angeles and I take on a couple of those 457 00:23:01,830 --> 00:22:58,540 Valentino sightings and had pretty much 458 00:23:05,670 --> 00:23:01,840 been able to disprove that it's him 459 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:05,680 you know one is at the Alexandria Hotel 460 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:09,250 in downtown Los Angeles which that girl 461 00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:14,170 story started around 1996 and I the 462 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:15,940 Alexandria is one of the books covered 463 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:19,090 in my own book so I really went deep 464 00:23:25,050 --> 00:23:22,210 into the history of the Alexandria and 465 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:25,060 determined that the infamous Valentino 466 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:29,170 suite that he supposedly haunts was not 467 00:23:35,670 --> 00:23:31,810 actually a suite he I ever stayed in it 468 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:35,680 was named in his honor in 1970 however 469 00:23:41,370 --> 00:23:38,710 having said that when I did my 470 00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:41,380 photoshoot in the Valentino suite there 471 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:43,720 was definitely something paranormal off 472 00:23:50,550 --> 00:23:47,710 in that place and it and it it it made 473 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:50,560 its presence known during the shoot all 474 00:23:54,570 --> 00:23:52,930 right let's finish this up and we will 475 00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:54,580 go to our bottom of the hour right when 476 00:24:06,480 --> 00:23:55,870 we come back we'll continue our 477 00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:10,630 now back to exploring the bazaars with 478 00:24:16,510 --> 00:24:13,220 two of the most electrifying researchers 479 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:16,520 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becky 480 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:22,010 Lee panting Swiss man welcome back to 481 00:24:27,490 --> 00:24:23,930 exploring the bizarre I'm Tim Schwarz 482 00:24:29,020 --> 00:24:27,500 tonight we're talking with Craig on he's 483 00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:29,030 got the Facebook page 484 00:24:37,930 --> 00:24:32,750 bizarre la and his book haunted by 485 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:37,940 history vol 1 so Craig you had said 486 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:40,880 earlier in the program about how when 487 00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:43,550 you had time off you you'd like to 488 00:24:50,050 --> 00:24:46,550 wander through LA and look at some of 489 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:50,060 the historical buildings but I guess 490 00:24:58,690 --> 00:24:54,230 that a lot of the ones that supposedly 491 00:25:00,670 --> 00:24:58,700 were so well known are now long gone yes 492 00:25:02,650 --> 00:25:00,680 as a matter of fact I used to live 493 00:25:06,430 --> 00:25:02,660 almost right across the street from the 494 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:06,440 Los Angeles Ambassador Hotel and that 495 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:10,760 was torn down in 2004 2005 and 2006 496 00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:13,850 actually and that you know was the home 497 00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:16,760 of the Coconut Grove that will has it 498 00:25:24,670 --> 00:25:20,080 had a lot of history and opened in 1921 499 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:24,680 that a lot of your swanky Hollywood 500 00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:28,310 crowd was there but it was also the site 501 00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:31,040 where Robert Kennedy was assassinated 502 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:34,820 oh that's right that's right yeah and 503 00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:38,210 that place I did have the opportunity to 504 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:40,280 go in there a couple of times before 505 00:25:45,850 --> 00:25:43,490 they tore it down and that place I 506 00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:45,860 always felt that was a building that 507 00:25:51,970 --> 00:25:49,750 felt alive there was it may be empty or 508 00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,980 there may be some straight cats around 509 00:25:56,850 --> 00:25:53,600 the property but there was such an 510 00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:56,860 energy there that you could almost like 511 00:26:02,320 --> 00:25:59,840 hear in your inner ear the music and the 512 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:02,330 conversations you know the music waiting 513 00:26:08,590 --> 00:26:06,110 in from the Coconut Grove and and you 514 00:26:12,010 --> 00:26:08,600 there it was just a lot of emotions in 515 00:26:13,450 --> 00:26:12,020 that place and it was spooky and of 516 00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:13,460 course it was supposed to have been very 517 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:16,550 haunted as well but if it's all gone 518 00:26:22,690 --> 00:26:19,490 it's now the site of the RFK Learning 519 00:26:27,340 --> 00:26:22,700 Center a kind of a in my opinion an 520 00:26:29,410 --> 00:26:27,350 ostentatious reimagining of the old 521 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:29,420 Ambassador Hotel and like the Disney 522 00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:33,650 music concert hall you know it's a it's 523 00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:38,270 pretty tacky looking in my opinion but 524 00:26:42,460 --> 00:26:40,760 I've never gotten over the heartbreak of 525 00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:42,470 losing the Ambassador because that 526 00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:44,150 should have been the line of the sand 527 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:46,790 for preservation that's out here in Los 528 00:26:52,650 --> 00:26:48,650 Angeles and that's one of the reasons 529 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:52,660 why I that prompted me to write my book 530 00:26:59,500 --> 00:26:56,960 on haunted historic hotels the ones that 531 00:27:02,799 --> 00:26:59,510 are still standing ones that need love 532 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:02,809 and attention and for people to 533 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:05,000 understand them and appreciate them anew 534 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:07,010 because what happened at the Ambassador 535 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:09,890 should never have happened so now the 536 00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:13,610 the hotels that you feature in your book 537 00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:16,820 you have the Hotel del Coronado the 538 00:27:22,299 --> 00:27:19,190 Victorian Rose bed-and-breakfast the 539 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:22,309 Julian Gold Rush hotel the Mission Inn 540 00:27:26,110 --> 00:27:23,210 Hotel and Spa 541 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:26,120 the Alexander Hotel the Wyndham Garden 542 00:27:33,490 --> 00:27:28,910 Ventura pier point in the banning house 543 00:27:37,630 --> 00:27:33,500 Lodge and the Glen tavern Inn now what 544 00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,640 process did you go through to pick those 545 00:27:43,210 --> 00:27:39,679 particular hotels out to feature in your 546 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:43,220 book well I kind of looked at it as like 547 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:45,650 a mall you know you wanted your acre 548 00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:47,090 stores and you have your little 549 00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:50,870 boutiques and so I had to have you know 550 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,270 certain iconic hotels like the Hotel del 551 00:27:59,799 --> 00:27:56,720 Coronado in the mission in the Dell was 552 00:28:03,850 --> 00:27:59,809 located in San Diego County the mission 553 00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:03,860 ends in Riverside California and so I 554 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:07,070 was canvassing Southern California not 555 00:28:13,210 --> 00:28:10,880 just Los Angeles but I had to include a 556 00:28:16,030 --> 00:28:13,220 location in Los Angeles so I chose the 557 00:28:17,410 --> 00:28:16,040 Alexandria hotel even though it's not a 558 00:28:20,620 --> 00:28:17,420 functioning hotel 559 00:28:24,220 --> 00:28:20,630 these days it's low-income housing 560 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:24,230 however when it opened in 1906 561 00:28:29,740 --> 00:28:27,200 it was Los Angeles's very first 562 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:29,750 five-star hotel the first one had ever 563 00:28:35,970 --> 00:28:30,320 had 564 00:28:39,670 --> 00:28:35,980 and it dominated all hotels up until the 565 00:28:42,850 --> 00:28:39,680 Ambassador Hotel opened in 1921 and 566 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:42,860 oddly enough when doing my research what 567 00:28:48,790 --> 00:28:46,610 I discovered was that the owners of the 568 00:28:50,890 --> 00:28:48,800 Alexandria hotel at that time were the 569 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:50,900 same as the owners of the Ambassador 570 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:54,050 Hotel so that's the the Ambassador Hotel 571 00:28:59,140 --> 00:28:56,510 would never have been built had it not 572 00:29:03,370 --> 00:28:59,150 been for the clout and the success of 573 00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:03,380 the Alexandrian so most historians I 574 00:29:12,130 --> 00:29:08,240 discovered did not know this so you did 575 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:12,140 and in the research for your book all 576 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:14,810 these hotels I mean you you really did 577 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:18,890 your research for these locations I mean 578 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:21,890 you did just go to the library or the 579 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,050 internet and found stories that other 580 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:26,000 people had written I mean you you went 581 00:29:30,430 --> 00:29:27,410 out there and did the legwork all 582 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:30,440 yourself oh yeah well I've operated up 583 00:29:36,790 --> 00:29:33,490 to this point I've operated under the 584 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:36,800 theory that all hauntings are 585 00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:39,530 historically based there's something in 586 00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,190 the history that will provide clues as 587 00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:45,200 to what the hauntings are going to be 588 00:29:50,620 --> 00:29:48,500 and for instance everyone talks yada 589 00:29:52,530 --> 00:29:50,630 yada yada about you know that goes to 590 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:52,540 Kate Morgan haunted hotel del coronado 591 00:29:58,690 --> 00:29:56,450 that's the only ghost that the del 592 00:30:01,060 --> 00:29:58,700 actually promotes they even named a 593 00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:01,070 latte after her you know there in the 594 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:03,320 basement you can get the kate worgen 595 00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:05,480 latte i love it myself 596 00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:09,830 however doing the research no one not 597 00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:12,800 not psychics not historians it's not the 598 00:30:16,540 --> 00:30:14,480 ghost hunters you know one bothered to 599 00:30:18,430 --> 00:30:16,550 look at the other desk there and I was 600 00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:18,440 stunned to find that there were over 30 601 00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:22,540 deaths between 1890 and like let's say 602 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:24,500 1984 Wow 603 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:26,510 and so I published those I published the 604 00:30:31,870 --> 00:30:29,030 names the details in some cases the 605 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:31,880 photos and some of these deaths were 606 00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:34,690 just as weird as Kate Morgan's 607 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:41,030 mysterious suicide in 1892 so also I 608 00:30:44,110 --> 00:30:42,770 wanted to know when these ghost stories 609 00:30:45,670 --> 00:30:44,120 started 610 00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:45,680 I think a lot of people would be shocked 611 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:48,500 to hear that the Cape Morganville story 612 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:53,600 actually started in 1983 for something 613 00:30:58,780 --> 00:30:56,330 that happened in 1892 istar say nothing 614 00:31:01,780 --> 00:30:58,790 before that time no not really 615 00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:01,790 ah now it was a case of mistaken 616 00:31:09,010 --> 00:31:04,430 identity bringing her back from the 617 00:31:11,530 --> 00:31:09,020 archives of the dead I historian had 618 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:11,540 decided that he was trying to find out 619 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:14,410 the real story behind a poltergeist 620 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:17,090 infested room on the top floor of the 621 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:18,320 Hotel del Coronado 622 00:31:23,530 --> 00:31:20,810 so he went and researched and he 623 00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:23,540 stumbled across this forgotten death 624 00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:26,510 this forgotten suicide of Kate Morgan in 625 00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:32,240 1892 and in 1983 in the October issue of 626 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:34,760 Believe It or Not San Diego home and 627 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:37,930 gardens of all glow of all publications 628 00:31:43,810 --> 00:31:42,110 this ran the story and it went viral and 629 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:43,820 everyone jumped on it the network's 630 00:31:48,190 --> 00:31:46,250 jumped on it the the paranormal shows 631 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:48,200 the paranormal books eternal well 632 00:31:55,570 --> 00:31:52,490 everyone jumped on it the problem was it 633 00:31:57,820 --> 00:31:55,580 wasn't discovered until like 1989 that 634 00:32:00,550 --> 00:31:57,830 that was not her room that was never the 635 00:32:03,910 --> 00:32:00,560 room Kate Morgan it stayed in so what do 636 00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:03,920 you do with a a murderer super or 637 00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:06,350 suicide or mysterious death that 638 00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:08,900 happened in 1892 which you attributed to 639 00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:10,460 a certain room that turned out to not be 640 00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:13,820 the room at all well once you found the 641 00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:16,400 right room suddenly the right room 642 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:19,460 becomes haunted by Kate Morgan hmm so 643 00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:22,190 does the Kate Morgan ghost story have 644 00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:25,070 any merit I'm not going to judge because 645 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:29,120 people have stayed there have had some 646 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:31,220 paranormal activity or some things that 647 00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:33,290 they claim to have paranormal activity 648 00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:36,080 when I I did my photo shoot at the del 649 00:32:42,850 --> 00:32:38,750 we actually rented the poltergeist room 650 00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:42,860 and we rented the Kate Morgan room as 651 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:45,680 it's called and we actually brought in a 652 00:32:49,810 --> 00:32:47,690 model and just her up as Kate Morgan and 653 00:32:52,990 --> 00:32:49,820 had her parading all around that room 654 00:32:55,770 --> 00:32:53,000 and sure enough one of my crew members 655 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:55,780 got a call with 5:00 in the morning and 656 00:33:00,520 --> 00:32:57,770 she answered the thaw 657 00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:00,530 no one was on the other line it sounded 658 00:33:06,970 --> 00:33:04,190 like mechanical noises in the background 659 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:06,980 now that is actually one of the very 660 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:09,290 long-standing paranormal claims about 661 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:12,290 that room is that around 5:00 between 662 00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:14,870 5:00 and 5:30 the phone would ring on 663 00:33:17,980 --> 00:33:17,150 occasion and no one would be on the 664 00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:17,990 other line 665 00:33:26,260 --> 00:33:23,390 so is that paranormal I can't judge yes 666 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:26,270 or no I can't say that that is one of 667 00:33:31,630 --> 00:33:28,010 the paranormal claims and that it did 668 00:33:34,770 --> 00:33:31,640 happen to us now the the photographs 669 00:33:37,230 --> 00:33:34,780 that I've seen from your book are 670 00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:37,240 absolutely beautiful I mean there's two 671 00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:44,000 fantastic photographs but out of the the 672 00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:47,060 eight hotels was there one in particular 673 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:48,800 and I know it's it's I suppose it's like 674 00:33:54,340 --> 00:33:50,590 asking which is your favorite child 675 00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:54,350 which which you probably did you enjoy 676 00:34:01,660 --> 00:33:56,870 the most where had the the most 677 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:01,670 surprises or the most strange activity 678 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:05,330 going on hmm oh yes well the you best 679 00:34:12,730 --> 00:34:08,330 about three four different questions yes 680 00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:12,740 let me let me just let me just say each 681 00:34:17,110 --> 00:34:14,960 each location had its own personality 682 00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:17,120 and each photo should be headed to a 683 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:20,270 personality some were more fun than 684 00:34:24,490 --> 00:34:22,010 others because of being approved about 685 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:24,500 you know eight to ten sometimes more 686 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:27,530 people and each one brought their own 687 00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,510 baggage and their own energy and their 688 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:32,000 own ideas and creativity and it was 689 00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:34,250 great but now I didn't let everyone go 690 00:34:39,550 --> 00:34:36,560 stung me as I wanted to keep control of 691 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:39,560 the environment but it it but if one or 692 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:42,110 two of the models that came out if they 693 00:34:47,139 --> 00:34:44,810 had an interest and I saw that they had 694 00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,149 a pretty good working foundation and 695 00:34:51,399 --> 00:34:49,280 that they they can follow orders and 696 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:51,409 they can you know they have a general 697 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:53,450 genuine interest I would actually train 698 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:55,490 them as long as someone with experience 699 00:35:02,410 --> 00:34:58,850 was with them to validate much of what 700 00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:02,420 was going on that was very important is 701 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:05,740 to have a mixture of new people and 702 00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:08,210 experienced people together in a 703 00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:09,670 controlled environment 704 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:12,430 and having said that there are several 705 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:16,390 locations that that do stick out in my 706 00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:20,170 mind in Volume one the Alexandria hotel 707 00:35:24,839 --> 00:35:22,569 that was one of my favorite favorite 708 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:24,849 shoots but that's because the history of 709 00:35:30,059 --> 00:35:27,700 that building is my favorite of all the 710 00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:30,069 buildings I mean that was the Plymouth 711 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:33,700 Rock for the East Coast film companies 712 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:37,089 that were coming to Los Angeles for the 713 00:35:43,470 --> 00:35:39,730 first time to set up shop or to look 714 00:35:47,099 --> 00:35:43,480 look over the area for possible winter 715 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:47,109 shooting so you know DW Griffith Mary 716 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:49,450 Pickford eventually Charles Chaplin 717 00:35:55,339 --> 00:35:51,970 Rudolph Valentino was definitely there 718 00:35:59,490 --> 00:35:55,349 this was Hollywood before Hollywood and 719 00:36:01,859 --> 00:35:59,500 it dominated the social scene for the 720 00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,869 film industry it was the epicenter 721 00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:04,480 it was literally called Rome and one of 722 00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:09,000 the old movie fan magazines from like 723 00:36:16,890 --> 00:36:14,079 1919 1920 and the stories are just 724 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:16,900 wonderful and sadly forgotten so I tried 725 00:36:20,789 --> 00:36:18,730 to bring as many of these stories back 726 00:36:22,769 --> 00:36:20,799 and put them in my book you know the 727 00:36:23,759 --> 00:36:22,779 fistfight between Charles Chaplin and 728 00:36:26,609 --> 00:36:23,769 Louie B mayor 729 00:36:30,059 --> 00:36:26,619 it would like be head of MGM you know 730 00:36:32,849 --> 00:36:30,069 and I read restaged that that this fight 731 00:36:38,339 --> 00:36:32,859 so I found someone that was a Charlie 732 00:36:40,529 --> 00:36:38,349 Chaplin imitator a great guy and I found 733 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:40,539 another one that looked like a young 734 00:36:46,799 --> 00:36:43,390 Louie be mayor that was hard to find but 735 00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:46,809 we actually restaged that fight scene in 736 00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:48,670 roughly the same area where it took 737 00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:51,670 place inside the Alexandria that was a 738 00:36:58,980 --> 00:36:54,099 lot of fun now when we were shooting in 739 00:37:01,769 --> 00:36:58,990 the Alexandria suite we were shooting in 740 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,779 the valent actually the Valentino suite 741 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:04,000 was shooting there all day long and into 742 00:37:08,099 --> 00:37:06,250 the night and what ended up happening is 743 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:08,109 after the Sun went down we were still 744 00:37:13,859 --> 00:37:11,410 shooting and it got real gloomy and and 745 00:37:17,249 --> 00:37:13,869 real creepy and this room hadn't been 746 00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:17,259 touched in like since 1970 he's oh the 747 00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:19,240 floors were warped the carpet was 748 00:37:27,290 --> 00:37:23,470 bleached out the wallpaper was 749 00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,300 be the furniture the the old Victorian 750 00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:29,440 reproduction furniture that was brought 751 00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:32,800 in in 1970 by this time by you know the 752 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:37,060 2000 teens it looked like it was from 753 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:40,660 1970 you know it was beat-up and broken 754 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:44,260 down and so we were up there shooting 755 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:47,920 and the leasing agent who had me made it 756 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:50,050 possible for us to shoot there he comes 757 00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:52,570 in after work he's being a little bit of 758 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:56,380 a pest so I gave him some busy work so I 759 00:38:00,960 --> 00:37:59,050 gave him a spotlight and put him in the 760 00:38:02,820 --> 00:38:00,970 adjoining room to where we were shooting 761 00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:02,830 we were shooting in the bedroom area we 762 00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:04,540 put him in kind of the living room area 763 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:06,460 with a spotlight and just said just 764 00:38:11,150 --> 00:38:08,770 shine it on the model so he's back in 765 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:11,160 this room all by himself 766 00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:13,570 shining this little spotlight through 767 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:16,540 this narrow tiny low hallway into the 768 00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:19,090 room that they're shooting so finally 769 00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:20,950 got another way so I'm trying to set up 770 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:25,420 the shot and suddenly Oh after about 15 771 00:38:30,810 --> 00:38:27,850 minutes he starts saying can you guys 772 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:30,820 hurry up the shot please it's gonna be 773 00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:32,710 very cold and I'm getting very scared 774 00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:37,180 back here and I was like okay sure sure 775 00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:38,440 I'll do it yeah 776 00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:41,380 and continued shooting and then you know 777 00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:43,990 about five minutes later suddenly this 778 00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:49,000 door slams really loud the leasing agent 779 00:38:53,970 --> 00:38:52,180 screams the spotlight that he's holding 780 00:38:58,860 --> 00:38:53,980 the beam is bouncing all over the walls 781 00:39:01,800 --> 00:38:58,870 and and everyone jumped including me and 782 00:39:03,810 --> 00:39:01,810 so I I had to take leadership and get 783 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:03,820 everyone to calm down even though we all 784 00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:06,940 our adrenaline was just pumping because 785 00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,640 we knew what door it was and it was a 786 00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:11,680 door that we had tried to close earlier 787 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:14,350 in the day only it would not budge an 788 00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:16,630 inch it was we thought it was 789 00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:19,900 permanently in an open position because 790 00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:22,660 of the the warped tiles and floorboard 791 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:25,180 underneath the door and I didn't want to 792 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:26,950 risk breaking the door trying to close 793 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:29,290 it so we said I just said let's shoot 794 00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:32,290 around the door well that was the door 795 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:36,910 that slam shot and so that's something 796 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,410 that you know there were seven of us in 797 00:39:43,770 --> 00:39:40,720 that room and we all heard that and it 798 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:43,780 was so loud that literally all the glass 799 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:46,930 in the entire suite rattled and that 800 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:49,950 glass is probably from you know to 1911 801 00:39:56,780 --> 00:39:54,880 for all I know so that that's one of 802 00:39:59,340 --> 00:39:56,790 those incidents that you'll never forget 803 00:40:02,280 --> 00:39:59,350 now as far as the police that had the 804 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:02,290 most paranormal activity all together 805 00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:06,070 we'd be the Glen tavern Inn hmm in Santa 806 00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:09,670 Paula which is outside of ensure the 807 00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:12,190 city of Ventura in datura County and 808 00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:15,160 that was a building that opened in 1911 809 00:40:22,530 --> 00:40:18,190 and it's been featured on a lot of the 810 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:22,540 paranormal shows but I actually had the 811 00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:25,570 final night of my photo shoot there and 812 00:40:29,370 --> 00:40:27,400 I should point out that when I do my 813 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:29,380 photo shoots there we're living in the 814 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:31,570 hotel for about four three two four 815 00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:34,510 sometimes five days straight and a lot 816 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:36,550 of us are occupying the haunted rooms as 817 00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:39,370 well as we're shooting in them and we 818 00:40:46,050 --> 00:40:41,620 try to pick the hotel during a time when 819 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:46,060 it's it's not very busy so that some in 820 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:48,370 some cases were practically the only 821 00:40:53,250 --> 00:40:51,520 people there and that was the case at 822 00:40:58,140 --> 00:40:53,260 the Boone tavern Inn when we were 823 00:41:00,570 --> 00:40:58,150 shooting there and voices from the 824 00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:00,580 hallway on the third floor were 825 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:02,470 disrupting my father's suit it was 826 00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:05,680 driving me nuts and again it was like 827 00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,720 the story I told you about Warner 828 00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,000 Brothers it was it was consonants and 829 00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:12,880 vowels that I couldn't put them together 830 00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:15,700 it was just like gibberish but it 831 00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:17,860 sounded like two men and a woman a woman 832 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:20,320 talking and eventually I was kind of 833 00:41:25,860 --> 00:41:22,320 able to pinpoint that it was behind a 834 00:41:30,210 --> 00:41:25,870 door of one of the guest rooms on the 835 00:41:33,860 --> 00:41:30,220 third floor that we weren't occupying it 836 00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:33,870 was kind of in the middle of the hallway 837 00:41:39,090 --> 00:41:37,600 and no one was in that room because we 838 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:39,100 had the whole third floor to ourselves 839 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:43,990 so luckily I did have some recorders 840 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:46,480 going at the time and I did catch 841 00:41:50,740 --> 00:41:48,970 they're these very faint voices that 842 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:50,750 were disrupting the photo shoot 843 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:53,570 and in listening back to the audio I 844 00:41:58,750 --> 00:41:55,940 could finally make out some of the 845 00:42:07,210 --> 00:41:58,760 things that were said and one was like 846 00:42:10,930 --> 00:42:07,220 leave us okay very very encouraging get 847 00:42:13,570 --> 00:42:10,940 out of here and the but the one that 848 00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:13,580 fascinated me the most what were two 849 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:16,910 words it was going to happen again 850 00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:19,570 what's interesting about that is that 851 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:22,670 when the going tavern Inn opened in 1911 852 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:25,490 up until World War two that that's 853 00:42:31,450 --> 00:42:27,650 exactly what it was called it was called 854 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:31,460 the Glen tavern and that was a bit then 855 00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:34,970 during World War two it was was 856 00:42:40,540 --> 00:42:37,190 acquisition by the military and it was 857 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:40,550 like a dormitory for four females in a 858 00:42:48,609 --> 00:42:45,250 nearby military base all women kind of 859 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:48,619 dormitory and then after the war they 860 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:51,290 got released back to its owner they had 861 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:53,810 to put it back together as a hotel again 862 00:43:00,220 --> 00:42:57,050 and when they reopened it in the mid 40s 863 00:43:03,220 --> 00:43:00,230 mid to late forties it would be in the 864 00:43:06,130 --> 00:43:03,230 Clinton hotel and then in the 1980s 865 00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:06,140 during another renovation to the 866 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:07,849 property it became the glowing tavern 867 00:43:11,170 --> 00:43:09,609 Inn and it's been the going to afternoon 868 00:43:13,410 --> 00:43:11,180 ever since 869 00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:13,420 however just hearing words Glen tavern 870 00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:17,089 does raise the question is the ghost 871 00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:21,830 from that era from 1911 to 1914 mm-hmm 872 00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:25,310 it makes sense we've got a we've have a 873 00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,310 question from Brian on skype and he 874 00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:30,800 wants to know have you ever followed up 875 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:33,470 on some of the locations of buildings 876 00:43:38,170 --> 00:43:35,690 that have been taken down to see if the 877 00:43:42,430 --> 00:43:38,180 new buildings have had any similar 878 00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:42,440 experiences I don't know I've never 879 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:44,750 heard any stories about the RFK Learning 880 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:48,170 Center I'm gonna keeping my antenna up 881 00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:51,290 to hear about that most in most cases 882 00:43:58,780 --> 00:43:55,910 but definitely not all cases in most 883 00:44:01,599 --> 00:43:58,790 cases when the building's torn down he 884 00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:01,609 goes go with it you know it really 885 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:03,280 depends on the nature of the haunting 886 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:04,890 whatever is 887 00:44:09,260 --> 00:44:06,570 on him there are they connected to the 888 00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:09,270 history of the building or they 889 00:44:15,550 --> 00:44:11,700 connected to the land underneath that 890 00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:15,560 being said tomorrow night I'll be 891 00:44:22,070 --> 00:44:18,990 participating in a paranormal 892 00:44:24,350 --> 00:44:22,080 investigation that the Olin house in 893 00:44:27,890 --> 00:44:24,360 Beverly Hills now that it's a house that 894 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:27,900 is not terribly old but it's built on 895 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:30,930 Cielo Drive just up the street from 896 00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:33,090 where the Manson murders took place in 897 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:38,910 96 and that has long been heralded as a 898 00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:42,510 place that has some connection with the 899 00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:44,190 man the hauntings had some kind of 900 00:44:48,260 --> 00:44:46,590 connection with the Manson murders and 901 00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,270 then it has connections with other 902 00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:49,920 things that might have happened in the 903 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:55,520 area as well so David is hosting a 904 00:45:02,920 --> 00:44:58,530 paranormal investigation on the 12th and 905 00:45:07,010 --> 00:45:02,930 the 26 offered barbecue I should say and 906 00:45:09,050 --> 00:45:07,020 he was gracious enough to invite me over 907 00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:09,060 and I met him for the first time last 908 00:45:15,790 --> 00:45:13,260 Saturday and he gave me a tour of the 909 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,800 house and we did have something weird 910 00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:18,000 happening well it was called the earthen 911 00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:22,380 wall room and it's this weird funky room 912 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:24,540 I loved it it's the one room that felt 913 00:45:29,090 --> 00:45:26,850 call me because onion I've been in so 914 00:45:31,610 --> 00:45:29,100 many haunted places for so long that 915 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:31,620 people constantly asked me why how do 916 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:32,970 you feel about this space and that you 917 00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,310 feel I just feel desensitized 918 00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:37,920 you know because I've been I usually 919 00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:40,140 stay in the most haunted rooms when I go 920 00:45:45,350 --> 00:45:42,510 to these hotels and whatnot so it's like 921 00:45:46,850 --> 00:45:45,360 any I don't feel anything but every now 922 00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,860 and then I'll go into a room and it's 923 00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,760 like ah 924 00:45:55,580 --> 00:45:49,680 maybe you know how it feels I hate to 925 00:45:57,980 --> 00:45:55,590 say this it feels like home but like 926 00:46:01,220 --> 00:45:57,990 home and it's funny because I was there 927 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:01,230 with a friend of mine who runs another 928 00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:04,650 who went to podcast herself called her 929 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:06,300 name's Tammy and she runs Hollyweird 930 00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:08,250 paranormal and so we were just hanging 931 00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:10,260 out in this room because I didn't want 932 00:46:15,530 --> 00:46:12,300 on leave cuz that got ah the scream 933 00:46:18,750 --> 00:46:15,540 peasant me cool haunted tied to it and 934 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:18,760 sure enough both of us got 935 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:21,070 super cold while just sitting in that 936 00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:24,610 room in the middle of you know a Los 937 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:28,240 Angeles Saturday afternoon the room 938 00:46:33,450 --> 00:46:30,010 doesn't have air conditioning you know 939 00:46:36,570 --> 00:46:33,460 it's just it's kind of a bare room with 940 00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:36,580 exposed beams and pipes you know I'm 941 00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:39,640 conduit you know overhead and in this 942 00:46:44,070 --> 00:46:43,480 earth thin wall which occupies most of 943 00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:44,080 the room 944 00:46:49,350 --> 00:46:46,920 all right great well we're gonna have to 945 00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:49,360 finish up here we got a minute left in 946 00:46:54,510 --> 00:46:52,540 the show so okay well thank you very 947 00:46:57,090 --> 00:46:54,520 much for being with us that's it 948 00:46:59,070 --> 00:46:57,100 bizarre la on Facebook correct it's 949 00:47:02,210 --> 00:46:59,080 actually it's all Los Angeles on 950 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:02,220 Facebook website it's bizarre LA calm 951 00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:07,570 and then on Instagram it's the star 952 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:11,950 underscore or loss underscore Angeles so 953 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:14,290 I thank you for thank you for being on 954 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:16,570 this thing doing this yeah great a great 955 00:47:21,060 --> 00:47:19,570 great show and we'll have to revisit the 956 00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:21,070 Hollywood I haven't been out there for a 957 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:25,180 while but I would love to travel again 958 00:47:31,310 --> 00:47:29,650 and see the sights anyway next week will 959 00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:31,320 be another exciting show here on the 960 00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:34,240 pouring the bizarre and don't forget to 961 00:47:41,550 --> 00:47:37,600 tune into our YouTube site mr. 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